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Salt Lake City Brokers Experiment With No CMAs Left With Sellers

After reading a Realty Times story that suggested that the CMA be repositioned as a marketing tool, Century 21 broker/owners in Salt Lake City decided to see if leaving CMAs out of listing presentations would really work. While the experiment wasn't formal enough to yield solid statistics, the brokers decided that to try to teach their agents to reposition the CMA in their presentations to sellers was worth the price of the experiment - a few lost listings.

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The idea behind the training, which began in August of 2003 and continued as an experiment until February 2004, was to train agents to develop and promote their marketing plan, the value of the company and the agent's value proposition and to emphasize those over the CMA. At first, the brokers asked agents not to include CMAs in their listing presentations so they could learn whether or not agents are too focused on using the CMA to get sales and whether sellers are too focused on CMAs as hiring tools.

Proving once again, that the real estate industry is populated by independent contractors, the experiment met with mixed results. Some agents had not been using CMAs all along, others tried to skip the CMAs but found they lost sellers, and others, fearing risking a seller's wrath for not leaving a CMA, didn't even bother to try.

"The more insecure you are," explains Steve Fairbanks, broker/owner of Century21 Coventry in Salt Lake City, Utah, "the more heavily you rely on the CMA to sell your services to the seller. It's like turning a ship around - it goes very slowly."

The brokers, spearheaded by Fairbanks, launched the "No Free CMA" experiment with about 120 agents spread across six Century 21 offices owned by four separate franchisees. He says he is frustrated over the "way agents operate."

"And what we have allowed agents to become," says Fairbanks. "We have agents who don't make presentations, in the sense that they have a specific regular way in which they offer their services. They shoot from the hip and the CMA is the primary part of the presentation. That's my perception. We talk a lot about doing presentations, and if you grab an agent and asked for a presentation, most of them couldn't do it. Some agents have one, but most don't. They say things like 'I don't want to sound canned,' but they should be able to at any time to tell you what they do, how they do what services they do, and why you should select them and their office as their agent."

What do agents think the CMA does for them?

"They believe sellers make their decision on the CMA," says Fairbanks. "I've had situations since 1974 where I've seen agents bring in the listing and say 'I know it's overpriced but they told me another agent said I can get you this much money so I had to meet that price to get the listing.' No, that's wrong! It's unreasonable sellers. None of us wants to walk away from a listing, we think what if, what if that agent could list it and get it? What usually happens, they occasionally do get that price but generally the home sits and the agent has to get the homeowner to lower the price or the listing runs out and they give the listing to another agent. If a homeowner relists with you after their home has expired, that's a real compliment. But usually the sellers end up thinking the agent didn't sell the home that lowering the price sold the home."

Technically, it's legal to charge for a CMA in Utah, and Fairbanks suggested to his agents that they do so but abandoned that plan.

"Our division of real estate has let us know that they frown on that," says Fairbanks, "and we weren't willing to challenge that, but you need to make a presentation that sells them on you and the company, and failing that, show them the CMA but don' t leave it with them unless they sign the listing agreement."

Dave Sampson, broker/owner of three Century 21 Mcaffee offices, said, "Our company has tried for a long time to get agents to sell themselves and the company first and wait to present the CMA until after getting the sale. We try to retrain them and Steve did that in a one-hour seminar for all the agents and then we did it again a month later, to encourage them to take it one step further. "Don't discuss price until they agree to list with you, and you don't leave the CMA behind. Don't fall for the 'What can I sell if for and maybe I'll list with you?' You don't leave the CMA, so there was no written documentation to discuss for the seller to mull over with another brokerage.

"Some agents were already doing it that way, but just stepped it up by not presenting the CMA at all in the marketing plan," continues Sampson. "If the seller didn't accept their expertise, or their marketing plan, without the price, we didn't get the listing. If we went in and said 'This is what we can do for you, this is who I am, and this is who my company is, are you interested in listing the property with me, and if the seller said 'Isnt' it important if I want to know what the price is?' we would not get those listings. If we weren't willing to discuss price we were done."

Did the agents feel those were listings they wouldn't have gotten anyway?

"We were competing with other listing companies," says Sampson, "and we didn't appear to have the expertise that they had so we lost credibility with the seller. The agents quickly changed their behavior because any lead call you get costs money so we started doing presentations that included the CMA at the end, but not leaving them, and the results were better."

Philosophically, Sampson adds, "The reasons why lead generation companies exist is because they play on the greed of the owner. 'I want to get the most money out of my house.' Nine times out of ten, an owner who doesn't have a relationship will pick the guy who sets the highest price."

If the goal was to retrain agents to give up their dependence on the CMA, the experiment was a failure, but still, a lot was gained. Sampson says that out of 36 agents, all tried the no free CMA idea, and half of them were true to it.

"What this experiment did for us is it required more of my agents to finetune their marketing presentation and their value package as a person and a company because they didn't start the conversation off with price," says Sampson. "Did all agents follow the rules? No. Did they get better? No. Is it a lost cause? Maybe. But some people came back six months later, and listed with us, because we made it without the CMA, and because the other person didn't fulfill the marketing side of their presentation. We asked for the listing and put the value proposition in writing. When you go in cold, you don't have that credibility. Price isn't everything, what is important is what the plan is and will the agent stick to the plan."

Published: March 18, 2004

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